Joker, a lot of us who do the fade have to go through a lot of hassle and inconvenience to avoid causing harm and mental anguish to those we left in the cong. Due to the insecurities in their beliefs (and yours I assume), and their apparent fragile psychological state when confronted with the inconsistencies with the WTBS teachings a lot of us have to start new lives rather than confront these ones and ruin their little world.
Tim Horton
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How much harm have you caused your congregation?
by Joker10 inhow much harm did you cause to the people in your congregation?
everybody complains how the witnesses did this and that and in the process caused so much harm.
but what you don't say is how much pain you caused others while you were in.
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Lawnmowers... what is your oppinion???
by Elsewhere init is getting close to time for me to buy a lawnmower.
when i was growing up and cutting my dad's lawn he always had a self-propelled lawnmower.
i was very lucky in that i never had to use a push-mower.
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Have a friend who loves his battery powered lawnmower and it's also recommended by consumer reports...
Best choices for those with small, relatively flat properties:
3 Yard-Man, $200, CR Best Buy
4 MTD, $200, CR Best Buy
13 Bolens, $190
15 Black & Decker, $465
The gas-powered Yard-Man 11A-435D (3) and MTD Pro 11A588Q (4) perform equally well, though the MTD Pro 11A588Q (4) is sold only at Sam's Club and may be harder to find. Also consider the gas-powered Bolens 11A-584E765 (5) if you don't side-discharge clippings and the Honda Harmony II HRS216K2PDA (6) if side-discharging is the mode you use most. Among electric push mowers, the plug-in Bolens 18A-V17-765 (13) is a fine, low-priced choice if you don't have many entangling shrubs. The cordless Black & Decker CMM 1000 (15) cuts more evenly and mulches more thoroughly, though you pay for its convenience with a higher price and limited run time. -
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WT: The Perfect Man/Woman Must be Vegetarian
by Gerard in*** watchtower 1961 december 15 pp.766-767 questions from readers *** questions from readers
when, in genesis 1:30, god says: "to every wild beast of the earth and to every flying creature of the heavens and to everything moving upon the earth in which there is life as a soul i have given all green vegetation for food," are we to understand that this absolutely excludes the idea that any animals ate meat at that time or before that?
and on this basis are we to conclude that all animals will be vegetarian in the new world?
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The WT responds:
Let us take the Bible position on the subject and not over-occupy ourselves with merely incidental matters to the extent of wasting time, thought and peace of heart and possibly stumbling ourselves into the camp of the godless evolutionists.
WHAT? who said anything about evolution?!!
oh yeah, they did earlier in their reply:
Accordingly, if man has been eating animal flesh and insects for four thousand three hundred years and has teeth that can be adapted to eating such solid food as flesh, it is not strange that birds, insects and other animals should be also living on flesh that they hunt for and catch.
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Sexism in the borg....sexist pigs the lot
by Jez inlet's talk about how sexist the borg is:.
only men can give talks.
only men can be elders.
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oh yeah, this ones good too...
*** Awake! 1967 August 22 p.27, 28 ***
True, mere brain size in itself is not as important as brain quality, but where the quality is the same the larger brain size has an advantage. Thus Science News, April 1, 1967, told of twenty African children who were so extremely undernourished in the first few years of their lives that "head circumferences...averages an inch less that the others, indicating smaller brain." And over the years all these were found to have verbal, mathematical and perceptual capabilities far below those of other children. Implicit in these findings is that man is advantaged by a greater brain size.
That it is in the best interests of both sexes for man to take the lead is also supported by psychological evidence. One of New York city's leading psychiatrists and psychoanalysts, Dr. Marie N. Robinson, in one of her books, which deals with certain frustrations of married women, skillfully demonstrates by case histories that many of these particular frustrations can be ended if women will but recognized the fact that the way their bodies are made gives evidence that it is intended for man to be the head. As she expresses it, women must learn the art of "eternal acquiescence" and "deep altruism" in dealing with their husbands if they want to find happiness. -
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Sexism in the borg....sexist pigs the lot
by Jez inlet's talk about how sexist the borg is:.
only men can give talks.
only men can be elders.
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This one is kinda funny
*** Awake! 1973 March 22 pp.13-14 Chess-What Kind of Game Is It? ***
Highly Competitive Game
However, pitting one mind against another, with the element of chance eliminated entirely, tends to stir up a competitive spirit in chess players. In fact, chess is frequently characterized as an 'intellectualized fight.' For example, dethroned world chess champion Boris Spassky noted: "By nature I do not have a combative urge. . . . But in chess you have to be a fighter, and of necessity I became one."
This helps to explain why there are no topflight women chess players-the more than eighty chess grand masters in the world are all men. Actress Sylvia Miles observed regarding this: "To be a professional chess player, you have to be a killer. If the spirit of competition in American women ever does become that strong, then I think we'll get some major female players." -
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How do you dissuade helpful witnesses?
by Tim Horton in.
for those that have done the fade and had one or more "concerned" witnesses trying to keep in contact and/or study with you, what have you done to dissuade these helpful ones from bugging you while keeping any apostate red flags from popping up in their minds?
(as this may only serve to increase their interest in you and initiate inquiries into your true beliefs)
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For those that have done the fade and had one or more "concerned" witnesses trying to keep in contact and/or study with you, what have you done to dissuade these helpful ones from bugging you while keeping any apostate red flags from popping up in their minds? (as this may only serve to increase their interest in you and initiate inquiries into your true beliefs)
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JWs can't spell
by Nosferatu ini was reading some comments on randy's site, and lately i've been noticing a trend - a majority of jws can't spell.
i've seen them come on here and their spelling is very poor.
here's an example: what a nut case!
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Tim Horton
bad spellers of the world-UNTIE!!
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When you're happy, the whole world smiles with you...
by LittleToe in.
spread some cheer, with a simple smile.. you know you want to.. you'll be ever so happy....
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Terry-
What is the actual difference between a "grin" and a "smile" in the attitude of the one displaying it?
Happy is an emotion and an emotion is a judgement that follows a value. The value is a measurement by a standard we set for ourselves.
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Woohooooooo WE Won !!!!!!
by observer inwoohooooooo we won !!!!!!
world cup of hockey semifinal!!
finland - usa 2-1 .
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Tim Horton
Too bad you won't make it past them Canucks!
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Palm reading and what not
by Tim Horton infirst a bit of background about this poster... married, 2kids, 12 year old and 15 month old, wife and i inactive for about 4 years and spotty at meetings at best for various reasons.i've had doubts ever since 95 and the generation thing, and my wife, well she's always had some resentment from the truf being drilled into her when she was growing up.
however i put off deciding what to do about the future of my own spirituality (and my family's) till recently when i got tired of feeling guilty about not following an outline for the only way to be a good person.
also my wifey wanted to know what the hell we were doing so she wouldn't feel like a fence sitter.
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Thank you all for interest and ideas. No I didn't get scared away, but actually my parents are out for a visit(staying a couple days before and after doing a road trip around the northwest). AND they are heavily into the truf (Dad 1 of 2 elders in his KH). So I'm doubtful they would approve THIS site and my comments here, so I'm sneaking a little time here in the wee hours of the morning. They know we're not regular at meetings, so are starting to get more concerned and frequent in their visits (even though they live across the country). Their soft-sell was touching at first but is increasingly becoming annoying...but that is a topic for another thread....
Special- "and not being able to become passionate and involved in life so to speak." That's also what it felt like in the borg..
Hey zen (like your name- it's zany!) "you can notice what seem to be patterns and trends and sometimes your gamble pays off...sometimes it dont... just the way the game plays out."
actually I'm using that theory in my trading hobby, it does seem to work..